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Lycan Nibbler · Mar 15, 2010, 05:58 PM // 17:58

My question would be storing cash for what purpose? If you have over 1,000k in storage and 100k on your chars, then are you saving extra for some reason? Does it really matter if ecto price fluctuates? After all, you havent gained or lost anything until you sell them and its realized.
I suppose a stack of picks, but they arent going to replace zkeys/ectos/arms for high end deals, just because they are relatively cheap.

To Chicken To Die · Mar 15, 2010, 06:31 PM // 18:31

Well you can start trading with Black dyes if you want :P

Quaker · Mar 15, 2010, 06:32 PM // 18:32

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Originally Posted by Reformed

It was inevitable people would run out of things to buy or just try to get 1,000 platinum for the hell of it especially in a long running game. I don't think Anet planned on people stockpiling ecto/armbrace stacks or seeing items sell in the tens of millions which is probably why we didn't get a stable placeholder (banknote or whatever).

QFT.

There are many, many average players out there who never accumulate even 100k. The game can easily be played - that is, one can buy what is needed (even FoW armor) - well within the current gold limits. It's really only the very rich who buy and sell very expensive items that need to be concerned about a new currency.
And, quite frankly, having had lots of gold in the past, I can say that the value fluctuations of things like ectos and armbraces are really not worth worrying about. It is just play-money and, if you have the time to accumulate so much gold that you need to sink it into ectos (or w/e) just to hold it, you have the time to get even more if the need arises.

Also, there are really two distinct issues here. One issue is the storing of large amounts of wealth for future use - this can be affected by the price fluctuations.
The other issue is trades greater than 100k. In this case it doesn't matter how flexible the value of something is; it only matters what value the players place on it at the time of the trade and what they are willing to accept as trade. For example, if someone wants 110k for something, that becomes 100k + 2e, if ecto are 5k each, or 98k + 3e, if ectos are worth 4k each, or 100k + 8 lockpicks, etc.. No biggie.

doomfodder · Mar 15, 2010, 10:40 PM // 22:40

Simple, add a trader that sells dungeon maps for 25k & remove them from the random drops in dungeons.... who actually has ANY dungeon maps in INV atm ????

Snograt · Mar 15, 2010, 10:49 PM // 22:49

The point is, if ANet had wanted to do something like this, they would have done. It is, as has been said many times, a very simple thing to do. Just add a stackable item worth (let's say) 10k, or even add another digit to the maximum gold trade limit.

I think they're quite happy with the way the economy runs itself, to be honest.

Yawgmoth · Mar 16, 2010, 09:41 AM // 09:41

Making even such a super simple change as adding a fixed value stackable item would still require a certain amount of developer time, and that's not just the implementation itself but consideration - I think there's a good chance they haven't even thought about the possibility of doing such a thing in the last few years, so before doing so they'd need to think of all possible consequences.
Maybe the reasons why the trade limits were added in the first place are no longer valid, maybe they feared the most about a possible exploit like duping able to be an enormous economic disaster if it was the gold duped with no limits, instead of just some valuable items which are also easier to track?
Maybe tracking down RMT companies who sell 100s millions of gold and need to have 100s of accounts for that would become much harder?

I think adding such a fixed value item (100k bills for simplicity and saving storage space) would be GOOD for the game and it's economy, despite the potential initial ecto selling panic (and I've posted a large detailed suggestions post on how to prevent that aswell).

Also, addition of such an universal value item (or completely removing trade limits, but that'd be likely harder and requiring server code changes) is a MUST if they're ever to introduce some kind of a trading system (like Xunlai Marketplace we can dream about)

imnotyourmother · Mar 16, 2010, 02:32 PM // 14:32

JUST, R E M O V E THE G O L D CAP.

there. problem solved

To Chicken To Die · Mar 16, 2010, 02:55 PM // 14:55

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Originally Posted by imnotyourmother

JUST, R E M O V E THE G O L D CAP.

there. problem solved

Yeah that would really help. For most if an exploit to duplicate money is used and can be increased because a higher cap and therefore used and take a good chunck out of the econemy before A-net is able to act. Massive bans etc. Like history would repeat itself.

besides why would you need more then 100 platinum and 1.000 platinum on a char and in storage? Buy ecto's. Got to many ecto's buy armbrace. To many armbrace? (well then you really need to take a brake from guildwars)

Cale Roughstar · Mar 16, 2010, 03:14 PM // 15:14

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Originally Posted by To Chicken To Die

Yeah that would really help. For most if an exploit to duplicate money is used and can be increased because a higher cap and therefore used and take a good chunck out of the econemy before A-net is able to act. Massive bans etc. Like history would repeat itself.

It's not as if GW has a huge history of duping. I think it is rather silly to disregard the idea because of what might happen.

Pleikki · Mar 16, 2010, 04:19 PM // 16:19

Elite tomes, Generally not Changing in price too much

if ectos/dyes/zkeys/braces/picks aint an option

Axeman002 · Mar 16, 2010, 08:01 PM // 20:01

i say use RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing jaw bones...as there droprates lower than ectos!!!!

imnotyourmother · Mar 18, 2010, 03:14 PM // 15:14

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Originally Posted by To Chicken To Die

Yeah that would really help. For most if an exploit to duplicate money is used and can be increased because a higher cap and therefore used and take a good chunk out of the economy before A-net is able to act. Massive bans etc. Like history would repeat itself.

besides why would you need more then 100 platinum and 1.000 platinum on a char and in storage? Buy ecto's. Got to many ecto's buy armbrace. To many armbrace (Emphasis mine)? (well then you really need to take a brake from guild wars)

- Correction of spelling is mine

Did you know that there are FAKE armbraces out there? Did you know that if you try and actually use one that you bought that it might not work ..AT ALL!!! Yet you denounce abolition of the Gold Cap? Interesting

Reformed · Mar 18, 2010, 04:57 PM // 16:57

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Originally Posted by imnotyourmother

Did you know that there are FAKE armbraces out there? Did you know that if you try and actually use one that you bought that it might not work ..AT ALL!!!

Wait...what?